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May 23, 2019

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Location:

Shelby Township,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Running Races 2019

Detroit Marathon or Indianapolis Monumental Marathon

Gravel Races

April 13: Barry Roubaix 36 Mile

September 8: Johns Dirty Ride 25 or 50 Mile

Cyclocross

November 16: Bloomer CX

Nov 30: Le Frost

Long-Term Running Goals:

I'd love to get my marathon time into the 2:3X range or under. Do some gravel races and cyclocross races to keep things interesting.

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan. I started running in September 2010.

(Please note that Strava links might contain blog inappropriate langauge)

 

Favorite Blogs:

Miles:This week: 42.80 Month: 219.90 Year: 1620.25
Newton Flat 5 Lifetime Miles: 131.90
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 465.60
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 7 Lifetime Miles: 249.10
Altra Escalante Lifetime Miles: 524.25
Altra One V3 Blue Lifetime Miles: 299.80
Altra One V3 Blue 2 Lifetime Miles: 362.60
Specialized Diverge Pro Lifetime Miles: 781.70
Saucony ISO Freedom Lifetime Miles: 456.30
Saucony ISO Freedom Black/Green Lifetime Miles: 239.10
Saucony Kinvara 5 Blue (Vault) Lifetime Miles: 616.02
Saucony Kinvara 5 Teal (Vault) Lifetime Miles: 498.75
Cross Training Minutes 2019 Lifetime Miles: 1823.50
Saucony Kinvara 6 Lifetime Miles: 31.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.500.000.000.0016.50

AM: North side - 6.25 miles, averaged 8:39. Legs weren't sore, but they were definitely heavy as was expected. 

PM: 18th street to Fink Cemetery and back - 10.25 miles, averaged 7:47

Saucony Kinvara Miles: 6.25Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 21:51:07 from 66.17.102.185

You're kicking butt on the miles this week! Nice work. And great job on the reps yesterday. I can definitely see why your legs are heavy.

From Bam on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 03:49:08 from 89.126.28.24

Jason, I'm diving in with a direct order here - ease up for a day or two. You've got to let your body recover and adapt to the stress from workouts; stress doesn't come much harder than 4x1 mile off 90 secs. 2 runs with a total of 16.5 miles is too much (for you and come to think of it, for most people) the day after that session.

5k pace workouts and VO2 max stuff are a lot harder on the body than MP efforts and tempo runs. Step back for a day or two and then pick up the miles. For sure, those two runs, on top of the workout, will have added extra stress to your system.

Ease up and don't blow all your hard and intelligent work for the sake of a few miles. That's an order.

From Jason D on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 08:39:15 from 24.1.80.94

Thanks, Matt. The snow is leaving and the weather is turning fine so it's easy to get caught up in just keeping running, but . . . as Bam says.

Bam: I know. I was thinking of that both as I was doing it and this morning. I got caught up in the fact that my legs felt really good and that we have finally had some decent weather (just because legs feel fine doesn't mean they are recovered). I slept a 10 hours last night and had a good nap before my afternoon run yesterday. I'm skipping my morning run and keeping the afternoon run to 50-60 minutes. Tomorrow will be AM/PM easy 50-60. I'm thinking I may skip my long run on Sunday. I have 4 long runs this month including a 22 and 24, and as you say I am chasing numbers a bit. I appreciate the sense as always.

From Bam on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 08:48:01 from 89.126.28.24

I'd keep the long run on Sunday and ease up even more today and tomorrow. The difference between a 35 min run and a 60 min run is marginal, apart from you increase the chance of injuring yourself the longer you're on your feet.

Tomorrow, if your going to run twice (I'm in favour of this), run shorter 2x40 mins. You'll get nothing out of the extra 10 mins. You're better off letting your legs recover, while replenishing your glycogen stores ready for a long run on Sunday.

From RileyCook on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 08:56:41 from 132.3.57.79

I think Bam has some wise points. Your training has been great lately, stay smart and stay patient.

This blog is great for motivation, but too many people get sucked into chasing higher mileage than they should with that mileage board.

By the way you mentioned 10 hours of sleep and a nap, that's incredible. I'm so jealous! I'm lucky to get 7 hours even on weekends.

From Jason D on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 09:02:27 from 24.1.80.94

I'll go with something closer to what you have in mind. I certainly have plenty of non-running things to work on!

From Jason D on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 09:10:42 from 24.1.80.94

Thanks, Riley. I've done pretty well not getting crazy until now, but you are right of course. My problem is I'm not chasing the top guys (we all agree that's crazy!) but I had some ideas of numbers that I planned a few weeks ago and rather than applying the "that depends" rule I was trying to stick with what I had planned (again, another bad idea when you happen to insert one of the hardest and most successful sessions, unplanned, you've ever done). That's the imaginary guy I was chasing I think.

As for the extra sleep, my schedule is pretty flexible, although I lost some weekend time getting stuff done last Saturday and Sunday! But I did feel a bit guilty. Now I suppose I should see about doing some work . . .

From RileyCook on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 09:22:37 from 132.3.57.80

Well the truth is if we all want to reach our true potential in the marathon we need to eventually build up to 120 mpw.

But it has to been done very gradually in my opinion i.e. over several years. It's hard to be patient when you feel great and you know that to hit the "next level" you need to jump the mileage. Looking at your mileage graph though you do seem like you've been patiently building it up with a couple spikes here and there. I don't see chasing mileage as a problem for you.

From Jason D on Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 09:57:04 from 166.137.100.41

You're doing it sensibly. With your speed and performance at sub-90 or sub-100 you'll be at top notch performance once you fully build up. Amazing.

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