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Shelby Township,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011



Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:


16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Short-Term Running Goals:

List of Possible 2020 Races

March 15: Waterloo Grit and Gravel 32 Mile Gravel Race

March 28: Dirty 30 Gravel Race

April 4: Lowell Spring Classic 33 Mile

April 18: Barry Roubaix 36-Mile Gravel Race

May 02: Black Fork Gravel Grinder 54 Mile

May 30: Hellkat 50 Gravel Race

June 20: Cow Pie Classic 33-Mile Gravel Race

July 26: The Divide 34-Mile Gravel Race


Sept 13: Uncle John's Dirty Ride 56-Mile Gravel Race

Sept: Michigan Mountain Mayhem 40-Mile Gravel Race

Oct 31: Lowell Classic Gravel Race 32 Mile



I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan. I started running in September 2010.

(Please note that Strava links might contain blog inappropriate langauge)


Favorite Blogs:

Miles:This week: 12.30 Month: 123.40 Year: 123.40
Newton Flat 5 Lifetime Miles: 198.50
Saucony A6 Lifetime Miles: 221.96
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 603.95
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 7 Lifetime Miles: 443.70
Altra Escalante Lifetime Miles: 555.65
Altra One V3 Blue Lifetime Miles: 415.00
Altra One V3 Blue 2 Lifetime Miles: 413.30
Specialized Diverge Pro Lifetime Miles: 2297.75
Saucony ISO Freedom Lifetime Miles: 727.45
Saucony ISO Freedom Black/Green Lifetime Miles: 465.90
Saucony Kinvara 5 Blue (Vault) Lifetime Miles: 740.87
Saucony Kinvara 5 Teal (Vault) Lifetime Miles: 730.60
Cross Training Minutes 2019 Lifetime Miles: 7560.80
Saucony Kinvara 6 Lifetime Miles: 469.00
Saucony Kinvara 5 Blue (Vault Shoe) II Lifetime Miles: 230.20
Saucony Kinvara 5 Viziglow Lifetime Miles: 165.45
Wahoo Kickr Lifetime Miles: 9.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance

AM/Lunch - Aerobic Builder - 14 miles, averaged 6:43 w/ 8-mile tempo in 49:25 (6:10/6:11 average): 6:10, 6:13, 6:07, 6:13, 6:05, 6:12, 6:09, 6:16

On our run on Saturday I tried to get Brandon to do his long run with me and do some tempo miles in the middle or at the end. He was going to be gone, but Patrick piped up and said he would run with me, given that he runs at 6:30-6:00 all the time. We were going to run yesterday, but I told him Monday would be better so I could get a day more recovery (even though I would lose another day on the race end of the split). We met up at the Purdue Co-Rec, which he oversees.

3 miles ~my warmup pace to a little bit faster (I am guessing it was driving Patrick nuts to run 8:00 minute pace), then into the workout. I told Patrick to run low 6:20s to start and cut it down. That didn't happen, but I felt better than I thought I might, so I let him push. Effort was up a bit in the middle miles, but not outside of the zone of what I usually do for these. If Patrick started to push a bit outside of my zone, I let him go for a while (I told him keep it above 6:10). He did about 10k and I went to 8, with the final miles being my most relaxed (I think he surged too much judging by the splits). He was a bit more gassed at the end than he appeared in the workout even though I thought I was the one really working, and then I went on to run 2 more miles and could have run 2 more if asked to. Proof that aerobically and in terms of marathon specificity a high mileage plodder will win out against low-mileage fast "easy" day runner most of the time.

Can I hold this pace in a marathon? I don't know. I wouldn't run that fast to start, but at least low-6:00 won't scare me like it once did if the the watch shows those paces. As usual a tuneup half and a big final workout will tell me what pace I should target.

3 miles back to the Co-Rec

PM: North side - 4 miles at gentleman jogger pace.

Newton MV3 Miles: 14.00Saucony Kinvara 4 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 169.20
From Andrea on Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 18:01:16 from

Nice workout!

Personally, I would much rather run a bunch of miles than to run every day short and fast .

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 18:55:15 from

Nice!! Fastest I've ever seen you run that one (other than a race), great job. Nice to have your own personal rabbit.

From Jason D on Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 19:29:41 from

The goal today was to start where I have been averaging and work it down to ~6:15 overall unless the effort was too much. I ran an 8-mile builder on February 3 that was 6:25 pace and I haven't run faster than that.

First time I broke 50 minutes for 8 miles in a non-race situation (2 min builder PR I think). I still remember the day I broke 60 minutes!

Legs felt pretty snappy, but my slow warm up (that was actually faster than my usual) was too much for the rabbit to handle. He was itching to move. He will probably be sore in the morning though :) I will not. A third gent to even the effort and even the surging a bit would make it much better.

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 21:57:11 from

Great looking run today Jason. I bet it was fun to see those paces. Definitely should be a huge confidence booster!

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