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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

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Miles:This week: 27.20 Month: 121.60 Year: 670.00
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 613.75
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 5 Viziglow Lifetime Miles: 530.45
Kinvara 10 Lifetime Miles: 186.30
Kinvara 10 II Lifetime Miles: 137.80
Miles With The Boys Lifetime Miles: 99.90
Nike Zoom Streak LT4 Mr. Pinks Lifetime Miles: 21.60
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 Lifetime Miles: 631.45
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 #2 Lifetime Miles: 154.30
Altra Rivera Lifetime Miles: 337.95
Altra Rivera (Dark Blue) Lifetime Miles: 129.10
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe) Lifetime Miles: 263.15
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe II) Lifetime Miles: 250.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 Lifetime Miles: 226.60
Saucony Endorphin Pro Lifetime Miles: 193.50
Saucony Freedom 5 Lifetime Miles: 51.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 #2 Lifetime Miles: 35.00
Race: Boston Marathon (26.219 Miles) 02:58:21
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.5026.200.000.0026.70

Ran according to plan and just didn't have it and that was clear as early as 10k. Almost dropped out around 19-20 as my eyes started to roll back in my head and my head tilted and my vision got blurry. Felt ill at the finish. On closer inspection a bit of mild heat stroke (or sun expose or whatever the non-lifethreatening kind is) I am guessing. I was going to write a few words and cut it short, but I don't want to be a spoil puss (or whatever the phrase is that my father uses). I want my report to contribute to knowledge on the blog about running, particularly for those looking to qualify and for who will run it for the first time next year or in years to come. That report (tomorrow) is for you. Pleased to see Joe run well at a time when other things in life had required attention. Josh ran really well, and so did Jeff. 2:39 flat? How perfect! Meb, Shalane. It's all just fantastic. Also, so many Boston accents that sound funny, even to my Maine ears.

REPORT

Got to see Megan and my mom, aunt, sister and cousin, which was great. I just wish I had more time with Megan and wasn't so worried about this running business.

had a A-goal of 2:45, but figured upper 2:40s would make me happy. I recently ran another 1:17 half PR, so I thought I was fit enough. I had some good workouts, lots of builders, and long long runs. Maybe I was shooting too high. I still need to think about that. I still ran under 3 hours and requalified, but that's not enough. It never was. I got spoiled running a strong marathon last May.

Warmed up for 5 minutes. Plan was to start slow and not run like a rookie. I ran according to plan and even a bit slower. Through 7 miles I didn't feel great. You often down that early. But I just felt flat the whole time. Started dropping splits early even on the downhills. By halfway I knew I was done. Somewhere around miles 18-20 I started to feel dizzy and I started to stagger and I could feel my head drop back. I hydrated as much as I could stand and kept water dumped over my head. Had to walk a few steps here and there through the hills because I thought I was going to pass out. I was going to drop because I thought something might be wrong. Kept "going." Side stitches at mile 24 (later than normal). Finished. Stumbled around confused for a while. After I met up with my family I felt ill. Sick to my stomach, stumbling around, not really able to answer relatively simple questions (basic logistical travel ones).

Just a terrible race, but an amazing day for Boston and American distance running. I was floored to hear Meb won. He's a class act. The ladies did incredible as well. Glad to see others had fantastic days (Josh ran a near perfect race. Jeff got a little course revenge from 2012 even though he had an amazing day in that heat).

Fact: Boston is not an aided course. Sure, by the numbers it is but it seems a ~2-3 minute positive split is what Riley has referred to as something like a negative effort positive split (I'm messing up his term but you get the idea). The hills aren't bad. Don't get me wrong, from the splits you will see I got put through the grinder but I was already toast before that. You just have to grind it out and not force it.

Ran with my Timex, which seems to help me actually run better. Splits: 6:40, 6:22, 6:24, 6:21, 6:31, 6:25, 6:19, 6:32, 6:26, 6:35, 6:38, 6:30, 6:27, 6;37, 6:50 (mommy come get me), 6:36, 7:00, 7:06, 6:54, 7:11 (this is embarrassing but it goes in the report), 8:01 (I'm never going to run again), 7:12, 7:13, 6:52, 7:49, 7:21, 1:26

Newton MV3 Miles: 26.70
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bret on Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 18:26:53 from 70.192.17.146

Good job Jason. Hope you are recovering and look forward to your additional report tomorrow.

From Jason D on Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 18:32:37 from 198.228.200.32

Thanks, Bret. I was just reading yours.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 18:37:56 from 198.228.201.155

I don't know many people that had a great day today. Congrats on your first Boston and the sub-3; painful as it probably was, you have it under your belt now and will run much faster on the next one.

From Jake K on Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 20:29:11 from 98.202.128.218

I think the most interesting thing about Boston specifically is that you see a lot of people that you know (and know the training background) running the same course in the same conditions, so you really see how fickle and cruel this race is. The truth is, it's really, really hard to pull off a great race. For every person who prepared well and did what they hoped, there are 3-4 who prepared well and didn't perform as they hoped. The odds tend to be stacked against you in this event. When you are feeling "off" early, there's not a lot you can do! Stay positive, recover properly... and give this thing another shot. You've turned yourself into a really strong runner, and you'll run a marathon that will reflect the work you've put in.

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 21:06:35 from 66.17.102.185

Way to stick with it Jason. Looking forward to the full report.

From jtshad on Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 05:41:17 from 64.134.67.42

Sorry to hear it did not go as planned but you battled through and are a Boston Marathon finisher! A learning experience on a tough course, you will come back and conquer it!

God bless you on your travels home!

From Josh E on Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 22:45:53 from 75.162.189.103

Thanks Jason. I am certainly happy with my race but I wish everyone would have had satisfying races as well. I'm certain you learned a few things that will add to your experience as a marathoner and you will continue to improve with all the hard work you put in.

From allie on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:08:40 from 174.27.221.249

sorry about the tough day, jason. as others have already said, this just adds to your experience -- both the training and the race. those "i'm never going to run again" miles are awful but valuable. it's not something you can really prepare yourself for, but each time you go through it you learn a little more and you can always think back on it and know that you didn't give up.

you have to give so much to prepare for a marathon, but you only get the one day for it to all come together. sometimes it doesn't give back, which hurts, but all that training still counts. you have clearly made huge improvements over the past year and the 2:4x is there.

From RileyCook on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:14:38 from 206.29.182.198

Sounds like it just wasn't your day. It seemed most people either ran a PR or ran below average. Not a lot of average performances.

I haven't run the course but it seems that rhythm runners would struggle there. Guys who are good at changing rhythm and pace would do well. Not sure which you consider yourself. I rarely run well on rolling courses unless I'm really "on" that day.

See if there's anything you can learn from this and then put it behind you. You are fit, that's not an illusion. Go get the next one.

From Bret on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:28:29 from 96.45.118.12

Jason - I think Jake hit the nail on the head with this particular course. Its deceptive in its difficulty and one that leaves many a runner frustrated despite great preparation and seemingly good race day execution. Marathons in general are unforgiving in ways that are different from shorter events - but this one seems to have the effect of exposing any weakness or error to maximum proportions.

On an easier course any number of factors such as temperatures, or too aggressive pacing in the early miles may nevertheless allow a runner to still grind out a decent result - but not so much in Boston.

Lots of positives to take from your experience, not the least of which is learning about this race, this course, and learning how your training and resolve still got you to the finish sub 3 hours. Congrats. Well done.

You'll be back.

From Superfly on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 16:39:56 from 74.211.21.81

Ugh... sorry for the tough day. Boston seems to weigh on the harder side for most. Still sub 3 is as respectable as it gets for a bad race. Keep on pressing on... the stars will line up and you'll have a great race. Just keep the training up and give yourself a chance every chance you get.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 17:37:04 from 66.69.93.8

Good report, Jason. I was sweating by mile 2 - once you add in that it was in the mid-day direct sunlight, it just sort of adds into the fact that it was anything but easy out there on Monday. Other than that, I can't add anything the others haven't, except to point out it's an unaided PR. yea!

From Matt Poulsen on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 20:02:01 from 50.168.224.197

Gutsy race, Jason. Sounds like you suffered from heat exhaustion. When that occurs, there's not much you can do to salvage your race. You are very fit, and you will destroy the marathon soon.

From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 21:07:57 from 66.17.108.16

Great report Jason. I read this on my phone the other day but forgot to get back on and tell you. Now that you know the course and race it'll be fun to see what you're able to do next year. You've put in a lot of hard work, and it's looking to be a good year for you!

From Jason D on Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 14:05:24 from 128.210.82.162

Thanks, everyone. I was disappointed after the race, but then I was just embarrassed. But not a whole lot I could do.

I'm taking my days off and looking at the Philadelphia Marathon in November, or possibly the Maine Marathon in early October if I decide to go that route.

Cheers.

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