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Erdenheim Community Day 5k

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Shelby Township,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011



Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:


16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Running Races 2019

Detroit Marathon or Indianapolis Monumental Marathon

Gravel Races

April 13: Barry Roubaix 36 Mile

September 8: Johns Dirty Ride 25 or 50 Mile


November 16: Bloomer CX

Nov 30: Le Frost

Long-Term Running Goals:

I'd love to get my marathon time into the 2:3X range or under. Do some gravel races and cyclocross races to keep things interesting.


I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan. I started running in September 2010.

(Please note that Strava links might contain blog inappropriate langauge)


Favorite Blogs:

Miles:This week: 19.30 Month: 147.70 Year: 2231.15
Newton Flat 5 Lifetime Miles: 198.50
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 500.70
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 7 Lifetime Miles: 368.30
Altra Escalante Lifetime Miles: 536.65
Altra One V3 Blue Lifetime Miles: 348.80
Altra One V3 Blue 2 Lifetime Miles: 371.80
Specialized Diverge Pro Lifetime Miles: 1264.60
Saucony ISO Freedom Lifetime Miles: 533.20
Saucony ISO Freedom Black/Green Lifetime Miles: 279.90
Saucony Kinvara 5 Blue (Vault) Lifetime Miles: 688.77
Saucony Kinvara 5 Teal (Vault) Lifetime Miles: 600.65
Cross Training Minutes 2019 Lifetime Miles: 3505.50
Saucony Kinvara 6 Lifetime Miles: 91.00
Race: Erdenheim Community Day 5k (3.107 Miles) 00:17:08, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance

AM: 10.2 miles total.

Erdenheim 5k in 17:08. No sub-17 but it was a nice PR (about 20-25 seconds) and I hate 5ks. Measured the course long, going through 5k in 16:57 but I take it that the course was accurately measured as it was done by a local running coach. It's always hard to put down 5k PRs because I never run certified ones and you have to be honest with yourself about the distance. 3.14 seems pretty legitimate. 

Warmed up ~1.75 with Megan and we got out bibs. I ran the course with Jonathan. It was closed and well marked. Some slightly inclines that ended up slowing me down more than I would have like and many turns. I did two strides and my legs were alive! I got out fast and Jonathan was still ahead. I figured I couldn't beat him but I could use him as a target.

Breathing was not bad at 1 mile but my legs were wishing we were running marathon pace. Around mile 2 Jonathan increased his lead and continued to do so for the rest of the race. My watch split slightly early before 3 miles and I knew at ~16:28 I was going to be close. When I first could read the clock I saw 16:48ish and I dug in but I was too far out. I ran as hard as I could after the turn into the finish (about 5:00 pace on a slow, gradual incline) and didn't quite get sub-17 but this was a good race for me on a fair if slightly slow course. I haven't raced in 2+ months and I'm coming into form.

Cooled down a little bit with Jonathan talking his ear off and trying to decide if I want use the women's OT group and rabbit as a slightly distant target for Philly. That might be slightly too fast but I am seeing indications of running between 6:10-6:15 pace but I will have to work into that. I do not go out ahead of pace for a marathon. Buildups are too long and effort filled to worry about 10 seconds per mile in the first 2 miles.

5:21, 5:31, 5:33, :41 (.14, ~5:00 flat). Maybe could have gone out a little slower, but I don't think it was reckless.

PM: 4 miles.

Miles With Megan Miles: 1.75Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 4.00Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 10.20
Weight: 0.00
From Jake K on Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:09:04 from

Yeahhh buddy! That's a nice chunk of the old 5K PR. Happy to see you rolling along like this.

From Drew on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 16:03:46 from

Awesome race Jason! That's a huge breakthrough and it seems right in line with the improvements you've made in training.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 19:28:43 from


Blown away man, great job. An unquestionable huge PR - congrats.

From butlerbrunning on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 19:38:50 from

Pr is a pr takem when you get them. Great race..Keep after it.

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 20:09:43 from

Nice race and PR Jason! Looking like a good fall coming up!

From Jason D on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 21:57:13 from

Thank, guys. I have been chasing sub-17 for a little while now. Admittedly, I tend to forget 1) how hard 5ks are 2) that 5-10 second improvements are excellent. I just think 16:XX sounds so much better than 17. I'm definitely happy with the race.

I think this will translate well. I am not a good 5k runner and the half marathon is my best distance. I think I should be up for a nice chunk off the half PR in a couple weeks assuming everything goes well. I'll know better when I run my 4 x 2 mile workout on Friday or Saturday.


From RileyCook on Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 16:33:00 from

Congrats on the PR! Great job, that sub-17 will come eventually.

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 17:55:09 from

Excellent! You will certainly break 17 within the next year.

From jtshad on Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:53:37 from

Great race! Training is really showing up in your race results.

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 16:28:06 from

Thanks, Jeff. I'm doing pretty much the same thing I have been doing with a few differences:

1) slightly higher mileage (maybe 6-10 miles per week, fairly consistently)

2) more consistent, almost religious, long runs (every week, usually a 20 on Sundays)

3. Running my easier runs even easier. I used to run an average of ~8:30 on recovery days and 7:45-8:15 on regular days. My maintenance days are rarely faster than 8:15 and recovery days will sometimes be slower than 9:30 pace.

Add these changes to another year of running under my belt and it's paying dividends.

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