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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

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Miles:This week: 27.20 Month: 121.60 Year: 670.00
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 613.75
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 5 Viziglow Lifetime Miles: 530.45
Kinvara 10 Lifetime Miles: 186.30
Kinvara 10 II Lifetime Miles: 137.80
Miles With The Boys Lifetime Miles: 99.90
Nike Zoom Streak LT4 Mr. Pinks Lifetime Miles: 21.60
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 Lifetime Miles: 631.45
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 #2 Lifetime Miles: 154.30
Altra Rivera Lifetime Miles: 337.95
Altra Rivera (Dark Blue) Lifetime Miles: 129.10
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe) Lifetime Miles: 263.15
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe II) Lifetime Miles: 250.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 Lifetime Miles: 226.60
Saucony Endorphin Pro Lifetime Miles: 193.50
Saucony Freedom 5 Lifetime Miles: 51.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 #2 Lifetime Miles: 35.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

Old Standby - 6 miles, no watch

Love a taper, hate a taper. The addition of a two-hour deep tissue massage on Thursday ain't so bad though.

Newton Trainers 2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 15:27:37 from 72.37.244.100

That is definitely something to look forward to!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:44:29 from 155.219.241.10

Sounds good. I'm guessing you have one more good workout this week?

Also, joebell1981 from the blog is doing that race too, just realized that..

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 13:14:11 from 24.1.80.94

Andrea: Yes, indeed! A bit indulgent for my meager graduate student budget, but I went for it anyway.

Joe: Pfitzinger has a vo2 max workout, which would be fun, but I think too taxing and risky (in two weeks I'll be running @ 7 minute pace not 6 minute pace and below). Not sure whether to do a few marathon pace miles at the end of my 13.1 on Saturday or if I should go with something like a half marathon effort workout (4 x 1 mile) or something, or straight-up marathon tempo of 5-8 miles. Any suggestions? My problem is I had to take today off or I may be running up against too many miles, and too much of a midweek workout leaves me in a similar position.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 13:34:48 from 155.219.241.10

I went back and looked at my last couple 10-day-out workouts from my last 2 marathons. before Houston, I did the 3 x 1600 @ 5k that I think you're talking about. It was hard. Thought better of it and did 4 @ HMP the next time. Not an expert, but I think you're right that something slightly faster than MP, or a short HMP run, is better prep.

From Jake K on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 13:46:38 from 155.100.226.191

I'm with Joe on this one... I think the HMP/MP workout is the way to go. I've done the mile repeats 10 days out, and while I had a great workout, it doesn't really do anything in terms of specific marathon prep. There's a school of thought that you can actually teach your body to burn fuel inefficiently by running too many workouts faster than MP during your taper. If you keep the workouts at MP, you're locking your body into the zone that you're going to want to be in on race day.

I did a 10K @ MP 10 days out last time, and I thought that was good. I finished it feeling like I could really crank it down if I needed to, but then saved that effort for when it really mattered.

From Bam on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 14:55:25 from 89.204.206.153

I'm with Joe and Jake, because of the fuel burning reasons expounded by Jake. I'd suggest that you do a tad less than what Jake did - maybe a 5 miler at mp. The reason I suggest you do a 5 miler, rather than a 10k, is that 5 miles is a breeze and will fill you with confidence without taking too much out of you. A 5 miler for a mortal like you is equivalent to a 10k for a demi-god like the Krongster:)

From Andrea on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 14:57:52 from 72.37.171.52

Bam - I think you've about surpassed me on the number of nicknames for Jake! :)

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 16:06:18 from 24.1.80.94

Thanks, gents. I went with a 4 x 1 mile @ half marathon pace. A VO2 max workout would have been doable for sure, but that isn't the point. I just worry about injury and it make sense as Jake sense that it dips into a different tank. Your advice is much appreciated.

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 16:34:50 from 24.1.80.94

Coach Bam, I was already out the door! I just got your comment now. 5 at marathon pace would have been fine too, but I've been doing more strides and realized I've been missing faster stuff (and my form has suffered).

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