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Indianapolis Monumental Marathon

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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

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Race: Indianapolis Monumental Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:09:11, Place overall: 168, Place in age division: 25
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.4226.200.000.0026.62

The short story is that I was on pace for 21 miles for sub-3:05 and had a tough time in the last 5+ miles. As I said in my comments, I am disappointed but not devastated. I trained harder than I thought I could and I moved my time goal from 3:20 to 3:05 in the middle of August. The progress this year is something that has been wonderfully surprising.

Longer story. I decided to warm up since my usual pace is lower 8-minute range for easy runs and I usually don't break 9 minutes in my first mile (rarely below 8:45). I ended up doing 5 minutes, which seemed reasonable beacuase the pace was super slow with 1 or 2 low intensity, short strides. Did some dynamic stretching in there too, but nothing serious. I entered the corrals looking for the 3:05 group, but could only see the 3:10 and the elites just ahead. The 3:10 pacer asked me if I was looking for the 3:05ers, and he pointed them out (strange how a 3:05 pacer, and much faster marathoner wouldn't be super visible in the still-dark morning). I stayed between the two pace groups. I couldn't hear much because of the corral noise and my hat, but we finally got to the start and got moving. Took a bit to navigate for position, even for a smallish race, but I settled in after 3 or 4 miles okay.

Mile 1: The pacers were moving a bit fast. I hit the hit the first mile in 6:50 and I wasn't really gaining on the 3:05 group. Before the second mile, the 3:10 guy was breathing down my neck, and I think he said he hit 7:00 for the first mile (too fast for a 7:17 goal time I think). Throughout the race I felt like the 3:05 group was surging, especially on a flat course, but it was likely my novice sense of pace and pacing, but I found it hard to stay with them, even though I didn't feel a lag in my own pace.

Mile 2: 7:11. I could see the 3:05 group about the same distance as we were at the start, so I figured I would be fine as long as I didn't get too much of a gap that I couldn't close at the end (I was only a few seconds behind them at the start and they weren't much back from gun time).

Mile 3: I passed through Monument Circle and threw my hate to Megan. At this point I think I was sitting right on the 3:05 group. Still 6:47. I realize it was faster because I was trying to get right behind them and had to cover some ground, but we still shouldn't have been too far below pace on a flat course (Obviously each person is the only one responsible for his or her own pacing).

Mile 4 (7:17); Mile 5 (7:08); Mile 6 (7:03) 10k split was 43:47. Right on 7:04 pace; Mile 7 (6:59) Took a gel here; Mile 8 (7:12); Mile 9 (7:15); Mile 10 (7:13); Mile 11 (6:58); Mile 12 (7:03); Mile 13: (6:59) First half split was 1:32:41, which was right where I was hoping to be roughly (1:32:20-1:32:40); Mile 14: (7:01); Mile 15: (7:01) Took another gel, and started to realize I would need to feel really good at mile 20-24. I missed a water station somewhere because they didn't have enough volunteers and weren't prepared for a big, tightly packed group. I asked a guy if he would mind if I had just a sip of his water if he was going to toss it. He handed it too me, which was kind. I can't remember but I think I was still pretty much behind the group at this point. I would be close to them and fall back or they would push ahead.

Mile 16: (7:07) Just a 10+ mile tempo run to go!

Mile 17: (6:57). I knew that these were the splits I needed to hit to be on pace for sub-3:05 and I also knew they were getting a bit difficult to hit.

Mile 18: (6:57). Split was dead even like the last one. 30k Split was 2:11:43, still on 7:04 pace.

Mile 19: (6:49) I think this was about where I passed a guy and he asked how I was doing and I said "fine," which was meant to be an hopeful and not arrogant response. May have been the next mile because I took a gel and really did feel better, but not super fresh. I was trying to close in on the group again by mile 20 so they could drag me to the finish line.

Mile 20: (6:58) Took a gel. Hoped some of my faster miles at the end of long runs would save me, but they didn't. I think this is where we entered the park through a narrowish gate. I was off the 3:05 pack, and missed my goal of catching them slowly over 2-3 miles.

Mile 21: The group was visible I think, but I can't remember. I knew I wasn't going to hit 3:05 for sure. I just hoped to come in the 3:05 range (the removal of the 59-second grace period being pushed aside for pride). I still managed 7:12. Oh yeah, and it started to rain a bit. Cold, almost sleeting, rain. Hands and arms were cold (I tossed my gloves because they got wet).

Mile 22 "Somewhere around mile 22 the cramps began to take hold . . . ": Let the geezer games begin (me being the participant)! Little bit of walking to see if the legs were just playing me. Got a few Cliff Bloks that some nice folks had. They had opened the package to help I guess, but I spilled a bunch. I took part of a Cliff gel somewhere in here too hoping it would be miracle fuel. Split 7:55 for this one. Ouchy.

Mile 23: I did some more walk/running here I think and managed a 7:35. I tried to fight the cramps in my side, but I did a good bit of clutching, growling, and grimacing.

Mile 24: More of the same. Tough mile, especially with 3-hour half marathoners walking and covering most of the road. Okay, that was what I was thinking at the time because I was really cursing myself. Growl, grab side, grimace. Repeat. Who is that hunched over geezer in the shop window? It's me . . . 8:09.

Mile 25: 7:48. I tried to tough it out, but I couldn't. I tried to push through the discomfort, but it wasn't helping. Just finish the race, Jason, and don't let that 3:10 pacer mow you down.

Mile 26: The point in the marathon where your eyes should light up and your legs magically find just a small spark of fuel. Again, I tried to push and I did okay but I didn't have anything in my legs either. By this point I had perfected my old man shuffle. Saw a guy on the sidewalk with volunteers. They were trying to stand him up but he was very, very unsteady. Always makes me nervous, especially since I had a friend at Chicago get life-threatening heat stroke (at 37 degrees this other fellow had other issues). 7:24.

Partial: .34 (.04 better than last year): No 5:30-pace kick down, but I did manage 2:34 or 7:02 pace. I also managed to pass one guy just before the turn off from New York into the straightaway to the finish line. Nothing fierce. More like a barely audible purr. Too many people in the finishing area. I got a water and got into an open area. Wasn't until later that I realized I missed my medal.

I walked a bit and drank some water, picking up random abandoned ones as I was leaving. My legs didn't feel too tight or sore even if they weren't in any shape to run. I wasn't that sore in the afternoon/evening and I actually ran a short piece when we went to lunch. A bit sore this morning, but NOTHING compared to my first marathon last year when I couldn't really walk down stairs for 5-7 days. I feel it a bit in my hips because I was such a geezer at the end, but I am pleased I don't feel super trashed and I can run earlier than Thursday (the first day I ran last year).

I am so happy to be a part of the blog. I try to follow and read as much of all your races and training as time will allow. I have learned a good deal from the blog, while better being able to push myself because of it. I have no doubt it has helped with my successful year with 9 races and a PR for every one (one of the many perks of being a newer runner for sure). My first half split was faster than my April half marathon PR by 1 minute and my overall pace wasn't much slower than my half marathon pace at that point. Many of my splits for the marathon were at what I was running the half marathon in June, just two weeks before I started my 16 week marathon buildup.

 

Cheers.


 


Newton (Marathon Racer) Miles: 26.62
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 12:11:33 from 166.137.100.47

On pace for 21 miles. Humbling race. Disappointed but not devastated. Side stitches and the like. A good bit of stuff to evaluate. Hey, it's a 27ish minute PR.

Love being a part of this community. I'll write when I have more than my iPhone.

From Bam on Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 15:29:47 from 80.233.0.241

Congratulations on a gargantuan PR.

I understand why you're disappointed but you've got to look at the bigger picture here and see what you've done: you've taken nearly half an hour off your PR.

I suspect, if you carry on doing what you have been doing, you'll take another huge chunk off your PR.

Running's a simple sport. Put it in and you get it back. You put in a lot of work and got it back big style.

I like that you're a tad disappointed (even though you shouldn't be) as this shows that you have the right stuff to do more than just BQ. I think, in time, you'll be up there with the big boys on this blog. I mean that.

Well done, Jason.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 16:30:24 from 69.131.141.92

Sounds like a mostly successful race, look forward to the details. Crazy stuff always happens in those last 6 miles.

Sorry about missing out on the BQ this time, buuuuuuuut...

27 minute improvement in 1 year, congrats. Just think, if you could improve even half that amount in the next year (which I suspect will be no problem at the rate you're going), you'll have like a 2:55 next time. Great job on the big PR, you definitely have a lot to be proud of on this one.

From Bret on Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 16:34:44 from 96.228.167.228

Jason - you really should not be disappointed - that's a tremendous improvement on your PR. If you give yourself some time, you will figure out that you learned something from the race and your training that you can work on for next time. Congrats. I was tracking you with live updates - living vicariously - really pleased with how you did. Well-done.

From Jake K on Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 18:01:28 from 67.177.11.154

Huge PR! You entered some new territory today, congrats! You'll get those last 5 miles down and knock out a sub 3 next year. Well done.

From Jason D on Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 13:03:08 from 24.1.80.94

This means a lot to me, fellas. I'm more than fine with the race. Nothing like *racing* a marathon for the first time rather than running it. Harder for sure, but much more exciting. I'm thinking another one for April, but I'm still pondering the 2013 races.

From Andrea on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 15:11:23 from 72.37.171.52

Congrats on the race and such a spectacular year for your running! You have a lot of PRs ahead of you. Make sure you take a nice recovery break!! :)

From Jason D on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 17:35:52 from 24.1.80.94

Thanks, Andrea. I'm definitely going to focus on several smart recovery weeks before rebuilding in December. I know any day now I'm going see you running full speed ahead!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 17:47:45 from 69.131.141.92

Just read the full report. Isn't it painful how you can be on pace toward the end, yet know with 100% certainty you won't hit your goal? Anyway, good report and good perspective. Congrats again.

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