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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

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Miles:This week: 19.60 Month: 114.00 Year: 662.40
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 613.75
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 5 Viziglow Lifetime Miles: 530.45
Kinvara 10 Lifetime Miles: 186.30
Kinvara 10 II Lifetime Miles: 137.80
Miles With The Boys Lifetime Miles: 99.90
Nike Zoom Streak LT4 Mr. Pinks Lifetime Miles: 21.60
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Altra Rivera Lifetime Miles: 337.95
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Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe) Lifetime Miles: 263.15
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Saucony Kinvara 13 Lifetime Miles: 226.60
Saucony Endorphin Pro Lifetime Miles: 193.50
Saucony Freedom 5 Lifetime Miles: 51.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 #2 Lifetime Miles: 35.00
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FINAL BIG WORKOUT/LONG RUN - 24 miles, averaged 7:00 w/ half marathon tempo

Warmed up 10 miles @ around 7:38 pace them into a long tempo around goal pace, but the idea was no pushing. Legs were moving to start of the first mile then settled into ~builder average for a while. Breathing was great, legs were saying "but must we really go faster? Where is that day off you promised??"

Last year I bonked hard doing a 10 + 12 and I didn't feel like walking in the cold today, so I allowed myself to switch up the plan as necessary. The main idea was not to run the race today. Run hard, but don't force it and end up ticked when you don't hit the paces. Got some downhill running in but I got a bit of a headwind and cross wind that negated it some. Hit some uphills that had me running ~7:00 until I crested them. Those were hard. I need to remedy this lack in my running.

I was going to call it at 20 miles (10 + 10) and jog home, but I hit the bridge and thought there was a sidewalk on the opposite side of the trail (I didn't want to recross the road) and I heard a cop on his loud speaker say "joggers must use the trail." I ignored him because it was mile 20 with 4 miles to go and he called me a jogger (I was close to 7:00 pace overall at this point). He came up beside me and I could barely hear him over my iPod, so I cussed at him somewhat audibly to leave me the dang nabbit alone but he was giving me an escort. Thanks. I was fine. Still, much appreciated. Felt like I was winning a marathon. I was still rolling about 6:40 when he took off, so I figured I would pick it up and do another mile. I got to the top of Northwestern and just let the downhills work. Again, no pushing. So 3 more miles.

I ended up with a half marathon tempo and a short cool down to 24. I realize this is more than necessary, but I needed this today for a number of reasons. Mentally I beat myself up pretty much every mile, but around miles 22-24 I was feeling good.

10 miles in 1:16:13 (~7:38 pace)

13.1 miles in 1:25:24 (6:30/6:31 pace): 6:28, 6:29, 6:26, 6:37, 6:27, 6:25, 6:44, 6:27, 6:53, 6:32, 6:31, 6:20, 6:20, :40 (partial)

Total run ~89% of marathon effort

Tempo ~96% of marathon goal pace

2:48:07 for 24 miles

 

Newton MV3 Miles: 24.00
Weight: 171.20
Comments
From Jake K on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 15:15:19 from 174.239.105.164

Monster effort. I'm glad you get an extra recovery day w/ the Monday race :-)

You know this - but how you recover from this run will ultimately determine what you got out of it physically. On the mental side of things, you're there!

From Jason D on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 15:30:53 from 24.1.80.94

Agreed. Time to be smart. But, yes, Monday race and running this a day earlier than would have provided MUCH nicer weather.

I'm due for a day off. short and easy the next two days (6 miles max) to clear the legs then a day off.

Since I have you here :-) advice on running a the 15k ~goal pace? (I don't think I need it; I just want to run it for personal reasons). Too close at just over two weeks out? I would say it would be fine if I didn't race it but I am at the point were I am a bit blind to sensible recovery, such is why I am soliciting advice.

From allie on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 16:11:17 from 174.27.220.148

lots of great (and big) runs this past month. it appears you are ready, sir. i'm excited to see it all come together.

you should kick back with a jug of protein powder and a spoon.

From Matt Poulsen on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 16:34:27 from 50.168.224.197

Nice run today! You are looking very fit. Your encounter with the policeman is hilarious. Nice new blog picture, by the way.

From Jason D on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 18:32:40 from 24.1.80.94

I think I am ready, Allie. Haven't felt it, so I needed today (despite going a bit overboard). (that time in a buildup when you think you should have done more, when you are more than fine). I did get some protein: Two plant-based protein shakes, then some eggs I got from my friend Brandon. They fueled a D1 runner, so they must be magical, right?

Thanks, Matt. He was just trying to keep me safe, but I first thought he was hassling me. Reading your post earlier made me realize I was running in some very light shoes (5.4 oz for a size 9; my 12s are a bit under 7 oz). Don't tell Newton on me; they wont like a 170 lb guy shooting for a low-2:40 marathon to be running in their flats :-)

From Jake K on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 19:33:04 from 67.177.11.154

I'd think about it like this - what would you do that day if that race didn't exist? And then try to fit the race into whatever workout would make sense. 15 days out, you are definitely safe doing that at marathon goal pace, perhaps even a tad faster. Just don't run it all out!

From Josh E on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 20:01:12 from 65.130.223.132

An odyssey run physically and mentally. And probably musically. You're looking good.

From Jason D on Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 20:03:52 from 24.1.80.94

Perfect. That's helpful. I was thinking I would sit back and see what people do. A true 15k effort would have me ~5:48-5:50 pace and I was thinking more ~MP to steady state (no miles exceeding 6:00-6:05). Usually 16 miles at that point (~7:25-7:30 pace) in a buildup, so a lighter warmup and cool down than normal . . . and, yep, just Jason working it through on the keyboard :)

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