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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

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Miles:This week: 17.80 Month: 188.40 Year: 510.50
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 613.75
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 5 Viziglow Lifetime Miles: 530.45
Kinvara 10 Lifetime Miles: 186.30
Kinvara 10 II Lifetime Miles: 137.80
Miles With The Boys Lifetime Miles: 99.90
Nike Zoom Streak LT4 Mr. Pinks Lifetime Miles: 21.60
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 Lifetime Miles: 609.15
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 #2 Lifetime Miles: 154.30
Altra Rivera Lifetime Miles: 337.95
Altra Rivera (Dark Blue) Lifetime Miles: 121.50
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe) Lifetime Miles: 263.15
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe II) Lifetime Miles: 228.00
Saucony Kinvara 13 Lifetime Miles: 188.90
Saucony Endorphin Pro Lifetime Miles: 170.00
Saucony Freedom 5 Lifetime Miles: 43.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 #2 Lifetime Miles: 20.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.000.006.50

Got my MRI results back after having a fun time with the campus health center.

It seems I have inherited my father's defective hip joint(s) (don't tell him that; he will think it is his fault and that he ruined my running "career"). I have a cam-type infringement, which means my femoral head doesn't fit neatly in the socket and there's some pinching that is causing the pain. The bad news is it is congenital; the good news is it is cogential--nothing new, but the problem was always a potential, hiding and waiting.

The trainer said to knock myself out running if I wished. If I expeirence pain, I can continue if that is what I want to do (in hindsight, this is not great advice given a hitch in my gait could cause other problems). So I just need to be sensible about my running. Even though it may not be bad exactly, flare ups could lead to downtime, making for inconsitent running. I pushed pretty hard to cross this threshold, so hopefully it takes the same amount to cause it again (which would mean staying under threshold, which is easy to do and I can still excel).

A few ideas: cutback weeks are not optional, no matter how good I feel. Make peace with cross training. Run on the treadmill as necessary. LOTS of hip and glute work (this should go without saying). Be weight conscious, but not obsessive (getting back to the low 160s would mean a lot less force on the joint).

PM: Club Newtone - 6.5 miles in just under 50 minutes, averaged 7:37. Felt really good. Talk to me in the morning though. Walked a mile there, and probably 1.5-2 back. Stopped at Tri-N-Run to get a backup pair of 2XU compression shorts.

 

Saucony Kinvara 4 Miles: 6.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 15:57:21 from 72.37.171.52

Do you really think that is what is causing the pain? I'm just asking b/c you've had that your whole life...has it "flared up" before? My injury never showed up on an MRI and I even had a doctor tell me I needed FAI surgery.

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 16:15:32 from 166.147.104.173

No idea. It sounds common enough and I fit the profile. There's definitely a defect in that joint. Not sure if joint defects are hereditary or not but my father has had both replaced. I actually did have a hip issue July 2011. 10-14 days off. I didn't think it was related until now. It happened after my first half.

I'm going to proceed as if the diagnosis is correct. The sports medicine doctor found the report convincing.

But I've seen doctors grossly misread MRIs as well (we are blinded by specialization).

From Andrea on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 16:23:24 from 72.37.171.52

Well that makes sense. Family history + previous flare up makes the diagnosis seem correct. I hope you are back feeling 100% soon!

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 16:59:48 from 50.172.60.35

Thanks! I can't recall the discomfort level from last time. I know it was in the same hip and it wasn't painful, just uncomfortable and unstable.

I hope I'm back to 100% soon too. I get far less done when I'm not running even though it can be an additional 12-13+ hours in peak training.

From Jake K on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 17:00:05 from 199.190.170.22

FAI is such a "trendy" diagnosis so you have to be careful with it. But it sounds like in your case, like Andrea said, it makes a lot of sense.

And look at it this way, your 7:37 pace run was faster than I ran today, so you're probably in 1:04/low 1:05 shape after the time off.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 17:00:51 from 66.69.93.8

Seems like good news overall (and your run felt good, which is awesome). You will still make good headway on your running with a little cutback - maybe even find it works better.

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 17:17:46 from 166.147.104.145

Those two week off easy runs. Tough to fake :-) I didn't even do a pickup at that pace. I did some .1s at 6:00. Felt like the opening mile of a 5k.

I'm going to keep an eye on it and my options open. Time will tell.

It was helpful Joe. My two weeks post Indy were supposed to be 70 mile weeks. That wouldn't have happened. Probably 80. So, a bit of humbling reality. I was surprised I could make it 50 minutes without dying. 40-50 minutes for a while and go by tolerance. I was a different person today. Megan could hear it on the phone.

From Matt Schreiber on Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 09:02:59 from 66.87.72.172

Great to see you're getting something figured out. Hopefully you only get a flare up when venturing into uncharted territory. Your body'll adapt.

We're both guilty of neglecting glute work. Be sure to pay when you work on it as a subtle reminder for me. ;) I'll do the same.

From Jason D on Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 09:35:55 from 24.1.80.94

I know, Matt. That glute medius pact we made back this summer (woah, strange phrasing, but you know what I mean) didn't take on did it? I do planks and stuff, but this isn't quite enough. Even basic form drills and plyos can be beneficial. I used to do them, but I've gotten lazy.

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